@MarkMasters8: Don’t become “friends” with her first.
Trust me, you’ll just end up in the friend zone; which is where women place the “boys” who aren’t man enough to step up and go after what they want.
I learned this the hard way and believe me, it sucks!
Hit up the Mack Methods guide/course dude, it’ll probably help you a lot.
thier lifestyle (if it was perceived to be exciting or important) and financial stability (if they made great money or not). The same study was done with women and med had to rate thier attractiveness 3 times after newinformation was given with the same parameters. Like before, the most physically attractive women scored the highest regardless of they were poor or rich, glamorous career or jobless.
Clearly the factors that cause attraction are very different for men and women…
There was another study where women were shown pictures of men ranging in looks from below to above average, but this time they were all dressed the same. The women were asked to rate thier attractiveness not once, but 3 times (at different times). Each time the pics were shown, new information was said about the man they were looking at (from lifestyle to what jobs they held). The results showed men either increased or decreaed thier attractiveness not on physical looks, but on (cont.)
Then the same experiment was done with women ranging from physically unattractive to very attractive, dressed in a variety of styles from homeless-looking to elegant and sexy were shown to a group of men to rate thier attractiveness. The result was the opposite of the other experiment, the physically attractive women scored high regardless of dress style, and the unattractive scored low even if dressed up to the max. This same experiment has been tried in many ways but the result never changes.
One experiment done on TV about the physics of attraction had 10 men ranging in physical looks from below average to above average, had thier pictures taken then shown to a group of women (college to mid-30s) who were asked to rate thier attractiveness. The guys who were deemed the “most attractive” were always the better dressed ones regardless of thier physical looks. Those dressed as “neutral” split votes. A few guys had taken 2 pics showing good and bad dress and rated differently twice.
You get that success by improving your looks to the best of your ability, because your looks is the bait that attracts women. PUA is a scam, because it claims that any man irrespective of looks or money can pick up hot looking women, when we know that is a total lie. A close friend of mine paid $3,000 to some PUA company to learn day game, and none of the students in his class had any success. The only guys who get lots of sex are the good looking guys, the rest fight for the scraps.
Mystry has never told anyone to “fake confidence”, nor have I ever read any book on pickup from any author who claimed one can “fake confidence”… Most people reading these books (contrary to how they are characterized by the naysayers) are just normal, regular everyday joes with enough sense to understand the basic rules of life and common sense. Not easily brainwashable nitwits.
Ok so when you have success with women then you gain confidence. Cool. Now tell me how to get that success. There are a lot of people that don’t have a clue and this shit can help. I don’t understand why you think it’s a scam. It obviously works. These guys go out and have sex with a LOT of women, so where’s the scam? They are just telling you how they do it. Also remember you saw this on youtube for free.
It’s not a theory, and I am not looking to scam money out of anyone, unlike these PUAs, I have ethics and a sense of morality. Like I said before, true confidence is a self assured feeling (free of self doubt), that you are going to succeed at something, based on previous success. It’s not rocket science, it’s basic common sense.
That’s great buddy. Now expand your theory into a 2 hour lecture. If you don’t end up sounding a lot like what most PUA’s teach then I’ll give you a thousand dollars. Hint: what you are saying is exactly what they teach.
More PUA bullshit marketing, let me tell you what the word CONFIDENCE actually means, and no, contrary to this bullshit artist Mystery, you cannot fake confidence. CONFIDENCE IS A SELF ASSURED FEELING (FREE OF SELF DOUBT), THAT YOU WILL ACHIEVE A POSITIVE OUTCOME, BASED ON PREVIOUS, PERFORMANCE, ACCOMPLISHMENT. This simply means if you know you have done it before successfully then you know you can do it again. Success comes before confidence, not the other way around.
I think it depends. A woman might think “Even if he leaves his old girlfriend, then what about me?”… However, most of the women are emotional. Therefore, I do not know where being a virgin or not a virgin will lower the value.
Well if you aren’t lacking in that area then 1.) You’re lacking in another, let’s just hope it’s not as “important” as getting laid. 2.) People who have been through a bad childhood and decide to learn this shit are the guys fucking your wife/girl
the only people that say they don’t have self esteem issues are the ones that have self esteem issues. especially people who try and put others down like you because it makes them feel like more of a man. And you clicked on the video
again… because he’s talking to students who paid for live instruction and field training and have no experience in the MM at all. Mystery wants them to go out as a group and immediately start practicing the right things that attract and see how women react in person.
This is different than reading his book and trying things at your own pace, where you can think of alternatives to the stripper story. But in person, he wants you to talk the talk right away and get the full impact live.
and it doesn’t represent any percentile of the game proposed here.
As for lying to get sex, that’s what usually happens not in actual pickups, but after a couple have gone out together a few times and the man starts saying “I love you” when he doesnt, just to get laid. The other scenario would involve actually impersonating a celebrity or someone of presitge and power. You might be able to pickup and seduce very quickly only if you find the right woman. But that’s not true pickup.
And you are taking me out of context. I understand lying isn’t 100% the game he preaches. I just think that lying shoud represent no percentile of your game,especially if you truly wanna have game and be a awesome person. And actually i think you can lie your ass off to get the pussy. I mean those who do lie probably that is their main goal,the relationship is meaningless if she finds he isn’t who he is because he will probably leave anyways.
dumbass.
@MarkMasters8: Don’t become “friends” with her first.
Trust me, you’ll just end up in the friend zone; which is where women place the “boys” who aren’t man enough to step up and go after what they want.
I learned this the hard way and believe me, it sucks!
Hit up the Mack Methods guide/course dude, it’ll probably help you a lot.
Lack of self-esteem issues is not something to be proud of.
thier lifestyle (if it was perceived to be exciting or important) and financial stability (if they made great money or not). The same study was done with women and med had to rate thier attractiveness 3 times after newinformation was given with the same parameters. Like before, the most physically attractive women scored the highest regardless of they were poor or rich, glamorous career or jobless.
Clearly the factors that cause attraction are very different for men and women…
There was another study where women were shown pictures of men ranging in looks from below to above average, but this time they were all dressed the same. The women were asked to rate thier attractiveness not once, but 3 times (at different times). Each time the pics were shown, new information was said about the man they were looking at (from lifestyle to what jobs they held). The results showed men either increased or decreaed thier attractiveness not on physical looks, but on (cont.)
its true though, if i say i have no friends to a girl. even if its honest, she will value me lower
Then the same experiment was done with women ranging from physically unattractive to very attractive, dressed in a variety of styles from homeless-looking to elegant and sexy were shown to a group of men to rate thier attractiveness. The result was the opposite of the other experiment, the physically attractive women scored high regardless of dress style, and the unattractive scored low even if dressed up to the max. This same experiment has been tried in many ways but the result never changes.
One experiment done on TV about the physics of attraction had 10 men ranging in physical looks from below average to above average, had thier pictures taken then shown to a group of women (college to mid-30s) who were asked to rate thier attractiveness. The guys who were deemed the “most attractive” were always the better dressed ones regardless of thier physical looks. Those dressed as “neutral” split votes. A few guys had taken 2 pics showing good and bad dress and rated differently twice.
You get that success by improving your looks to the best of your ability, because your looks is the bait that attracts women. PUA is a scam, because it claims that any man irrespective of looks or money can pick up hot looking women, when we know that is a total lie. A close friend of mine paid $3,000 to some PUA company to learn day game, and none of the students in his class had any success. The only guys who get lots of sex are the good looking guys, the rest fight for the scraps.
Mystry has never told anyone to “fake confidence”, nor have I ever read any book on pickup from any author who claimed one can “fake confidence”… Most people reading these books (contrary to how they are characterized by the naysayers) are just normal, regular everyday joes with enough sense to understand the basic rules of life and common sense. Not easily brainwashable nitwits.
Ok so when you have success with women then you gain confidence. Cool. Now tell me how to get that success. There are a lot of people that don’t have a clue and this shit can help. I don’t understand why you think it’s a scam. It obviously works. These guys go out and have sex with a LOT of women, so where’s the scam? They are just telling you how they do it. Also remember you saw this on youtube for free.
It’s not a theory, and I am not looking to scam money out of anyone, unlike these PUAs, I have ethics and a sense of morality. Like I said before, true confidence is a self assured feeling (free of self doubt), that you are going to succeed at something, based on previous success. It’s not rocket science, it’s basic common sense.
That’s great buddy. Now expand your theory into a 2 hour lecture. If you don’t end up sounding a lot like what most PUA’s teach then I’ll give you a thousand dollars. Hint: what you are saying is exactly what they teach.
More PUA bullshit marketing, let me tell you what the word CONFIDENCE actually means, and no, contrary to this bullshit artist Mystery, you cannot fake confidence. CONFIDENCE IS A SELF ASSURED FEELING (FREE OF SELF DOUBT), THAT YOU WILL ACHIEVE A POSITIVE OUTCOME, BASED ON PREVIOUS, PERFORMANCE, ACCOMPLISHMENT. This simply means if you know you have done it before successfully then you know you can do it again. Success comes before confidence, not the other way around.
I think it depends. A woman might think “Even if he leaves his old girlfriend, then what about me?”… However, most of the women are emotional. Therefore, I do not know where being a virgin or not a virgin will lower the value.
Well if you aren’t lacking in that area then 1.) You’re lacking in another, let’s just hope it’s not as “important” as getting laid. 2.) People who have been through a bad childhood and decide to learn this shit are the guys fucking your wife/girl
then why did you have to comment ? why waste your time ? self esteem? yeah right …….
the only people that say they don’t have self esteem issues are the ones that have self esteem issues. especially people who try and put others down like you because it makes them feel like more of a man. And you clicked on the video
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again… because he’s talking to students who paid for live instruction and field training and have no experience in the MM at all. Mystery wants them to go out as a group and immediately start practicing the right things that attract and see how women react in person.
This is different than reading his book and trying things at your own pace, where you can think of alternatives to the stripper story. But in person, he wants you to talk the talk right away and get the full impact live.
Yes it does. He said tell the girl you have been with strippers before.
Give this man props for wanting to help others, i see nothing wrong here
and it doesn’t represent any percentile of the game proposed here.
As for lying to get sex, that’s what usually happens not in actual pickups, but after a couple have gone out together a few times and the man starts saying “I love you” when he doesnt, just to get laid. The other scenario would involve actually impersonating a celebrity or someone of presitge and power. You might be able to pickup and seduce very quickly only if you find the right woman. But that’s not true pickup.
And you are taking me out of context. I understand lying isn’t 100% the game he preaches. I just think that lying shoud represent no percentile of your game,especially if you truly wanna have game and be a awesome person. And actually i think you can lie your ass off to get the pussy. I mean those who do lie probably that is their main goal,the relationship is meaningless if she finds he isn’t who he is because he will probably leave anyways.